Louisiana Cosmetology Board’s alleged “pandemic” of seeking “gifts” from Vietnamese manicurists is a continuation of aggressive enforcement tactics we first reported upon a decade ago.

Former U. S. Congressman Joseph Cao, who, 11 years ago, filed a class action lawsuit against the Louisiana State Board of Cosmetology (LSBC) alleging discriminatory practices and who is now teamed up with the Pelican Institute with both of them having waited almost a year for Attorney General Liz Murrill to issue an opinion entailing whether the LSBC has jurisdiction to proceed with consideration of issuing a Declaratory Judgment.

[Editor’s Note:  The following feature is derived from a collection of videos of meetings of the LSBC from 2015 as a result of complaints regarding alleged abuses by the LSBC received from Vietnamese manicurists mere days after Sound Off Louisiana was formed].

Fifty years ago, actress Tippi Hedren graciously offered a program for 20 Vietnamese women to learn the profession of being manicurists.  The result was a complete revolution of the nail salon industry.  By 2021 (the latest stats readily available), the industry has become an $8.4 billion powerhouse industry which is dominated by Vietnamese operators.  According to Nails, a publication devoted to the nail salon industry, 51 percent of nail salon operators nationwide are Vietnamese.

In Louisiana, nail salon operations are heavily dominated by the Vietnamese community.  According to former Congressman Joseph Cao’s testimony before the Louisiana Senate Commerce Committee on June 8, 2015, 90 percent of the approximate 2,250 nail salons existing in Louisiana at that time, or around 2,000 salons, were Vietnamese.

Despite this fact, let’s watch LSBC Executive Director, Steve Young, explain, in 2015 why, in the history of the LSBC, the Vietnamese community has never had a representative (that changed effective August 4, 2025):

LSBC Executive Director, Steve Young, in 2015, defends the fact that there is no Vietnamese representation on the LSBC.

According to several interviews we conducted with Vietnamese nail salon owners in 2015, they openly embrace competition and actually tout the fact that they made a practice of routinely undercutting the competition’s price by 30-50%.

They are recognized by Nails to have a stellar reputation for high-quality work, and, according to our sources from 2015, they actively support their struggling relatives in Vietnam.

Back in 2015, numerous Vietnamese nail salon operators informed Sound Off Louisiana that the LSBC routinely targeted them for harassment and alleged discriminatory inspections designed to drive them out of business.

Very importantly, about 2-1/2 years ago, after an administrative hearing entailing a Vietnamese nail salon owner, Sound Off Louisiana founder Robert Burns heard LSBC Executive Director Steve Young all but confirm the manicurists’ claims! 

The exchange between Young and the owner transpired out in the hallway after the hearing (therefore not available for videotaping), but we’re going to reproduce to the best of Burns’ recollection the near-verbatim quote that Young made, and Burns would have no qualms placing his arm in a polygraph machine to test that recollection.  Here’s that near-verbatim statement by Young:

You need to be appreciative of what we’re doing!  There used to literally be a nail salon on every corner.  At least now you’re able to make a couple of nickels in the profession.

That sure sounds like a concerted effort to thin out the number of nail salon operators to us, but here’s the problem:  It is the responsibility of the MARKETPLACE to weed out competition.  That is NOT the responsibility of any regulator overseeing any industry!

The Vietnamese nail salon owners buttressed and detailed their claims in a class action lawsuit Cao filed on February 6, 2014. After the filing of the suit, Sound Off Louisiana began attending LSBC meetings and quietly obtaining the stories and plights of some Vietnamese operators.

The suit alleged that the LSBC, its Executive Director (Young), one of its then-attorneys, Celia Cangelosi (who was named personally as a defendant but severed ties with the LSBC about 4-5 years ago), and at least two of its then-inspectors, Sherrie Stockstill and Margaret Keller (also both named as defendants and who are no longer with the LSBC) subjected the Vietnamese operators to being, “harassed, intimidated, falsely imprisoned, and arbitrarily discriminated against.”

The suit was settled with the terms not disclosed; however, Sherrie Stockstill resigned almost immediately upon the suit being settled.  Keller retired within the last year or so.

The lawsuit detailed 8-9 incidents including operators being subjected to repeated “inspections” wherein tactics were allegedly deployed by the LSBC that allegedly forced some operators to sell their businesses to escape the relentless attacks.

We have now been attending LSBC meetings for a decade and, just as we openly stated on another blog prior to forming Sound Off Louisiana, little appears to have changed since we made the following statement on that blog:

The LSBC appears to be a vehicle for impeding competition and creating a self-generating source of revenue to provide a cash cow for the attorneys who serve under contract with them and pay the Board’s salaried staff.

While the “inspectors” of the LSBC earn average salaries of around $35,000 (prior to factoring in any alleged “gifts” on the part of those whom they inspect), the LSBC payroll approximates a staggering $1.1 million a year!

Meanwhile, Vietnamese operators, who supply much of the funds through which they are harassed, are forced to literally beg the Board for permission to work.  Consider this couple’s plea to the LSBC after moving from Texas and attempting to obtain a license through reciprocity:

2015 video of Vietnamese couple pleading with the LSBC for permission to work.  Instead, the LSBC Members grilled the wife of the couple about her Vietnamese High School diploma and debated whether the Vietnamese translator for the diploma should be “approved.”  [Note:  Louisiana requires the “equivalent” of a 10th grade education to practice cosmetology, hence the debate.]  She had been issued a diploma from Belaire High School in Baton Rouge, which, along with dozens of similar students who received such diplomas, resulted in the shutdown of school owner Willie Payne’s cosmetology school because the diplomas he issued were fraudulent and the students had never set foot on Belaire’s campus and would not even know how to find the school.

A common complaint of Vietnamese operators in trying to work with the LSBC is the obvious language barrier.  WBRZ (Baton Rouge Channel 2)’s then-investigative reporter Lee Polowczuk asked Young way back then why the LSBC has never seen fit to hire a Vietnamese translator.  Here’s Young’s response:

In this 2015 interview, Young clearly indicates that his only concern is having a Vietnamese translator for hearings and not everyday interactions with the Vietnamese community.

Regarding the above applicant’s struggles to obtain a license through Louisiana’s reciprocity with Texas, many Vietnamese salon operators became very concerned way back then when they noted on the April 2015 LSBC agenda an item labeled “California reciprocity.”

Vietnamese citizens often immigrate to California and practice as manicurists before relocating to Louisiana, and one salon operator informed Sound Off Louisiana back in 2015 that he personally knew of 15 manicurists who, at the time of that agenda item, planned to relocate to Louisiana within weeks.

Those operators were therefore concerned about the agenda item.  Accordingly, Sound Off Louisiana attended the meeting and provided the following videotaped coverage of the discussion to those concerned:

Young openly ponders suspending reciprocity with California due to their authorities indicating that they would be, “no longer placing their seals on their certifications.”

As evidenced by the preceding clip, several then-members and Young indicate, regarding California licensing authorities, that, “you cannot get a live person on the phone.”

That statement, especially when combined with the statement that California licensing authorities were taking the utterly bizarre measure of, “removing their seals from their certification documents,” prompted Sound Off Louisiana to contact the authorities.

We had no difficulty whatsoever getting them on the phone.  Furthermore, we were told that Young’s statement was false and that they’d experienced a temporary machine failure but that a new color-printed seal was being incorporated into their documents!  All we can say now is the same thing we said way back 10 years ago:  Wow!!

With that revelation from the California licensing authorities to Burns, Sound Off Louisiana made a public records request of the LSBC for whatever documentation Young referenced in the previous video clip indicating that California was removing its seal.

What we got was this email which actually confirmed what California licensing authorities said to us over the phone.  Young sure came across as being absolutely determined to suspend California reciprocity and slow the expansion of Vietnamese nail salon operators in Louisiana (i.e. anoint himself to perform the function of the marketplace)!  We want to quote what the California licensing authorities stated in the correspondence so that it can be directly contrasted with what Young stated above:

The California Board of Barbering and Cosmetology has received the two sets of certifications that you have returned.  Unfortunately we will not be able to comply with your request to affix a state board seal due to a mechanical defect.

We will ensure that all future copies come in color, with the state seal printed in the top right corner.

That sure seems like a very isolated incident of a mechanical failure, which is precisely what the “impossible to get on the phone” California regulators told us!  Notice that, in the future, “copies will come in color, with the state seal printed in the top right corner.”

Upon seeing these videos, several Vietnamese nail salon operators informed Sound Off Louisiana that they had even more anxiety over the California reciprocity dilemma.

One operator even informed us that a relative who wished to reside in Louisiana with family was about to expend $4,000 in California and spend the necessary time to get a license, and the family became very concerned that Louisiana may not honor the California license.

Accordingly, on behalf of the those concerned, we at Sound Off Louisiana, asked that the item be placed up for discussion again at the next meeting.

Our request was denied, and we were informed by LSBC attorney Sheri Morris that California and Louisiana authorities had “reached an agreement.”  We reiterated our desire for any such “agreement” to be discussed at the next meeting; however, our request was denied.

Another common complaint among Vietnamese operators back in 2015 was that the LSBC itself could not decide what was legal and what was not!

One operator indicated that he was licensed by an LSBC official only to be informed by a subsequent inspector that he failed to have proper equipment nor adequate space for conducting his operations.

Another operator appeared to suffer a similar plight as evidenced by the following utterly embarrassing video segment from the April 2015 LSBC meeting:

April, 2015 LSBC meeting entailing an utterly embarrassing segment in which one LSBC attorney, Sheri Morris, has to literally educate another LSBC attorney, Celia Cangelosi, that nails can’t be done in an esthetics salon!

As evidenced in the clip, LSBC attorney Morris has to educate attorney Cangelosi that nails can’t be done in an esthetic salon.  Cangelosi says “somebody” told them they could “do this,” but she emphasizes it was “not someone from the Board.”

Sound Off Louisiana has been told by many Vietnamese operators that, contrary to what Morris and Cangelosi claim in the video (that “friends told them that,”) it was in fact LSBC officials who told them they could operate, only to come behind months later and issue violations!

Even in the video above itself, Cangelosi admits, “Somebody licensed them.”  Who can do that other than the LSBC?

In yet another instance at the same meeting, the LSBC demonstrates that it is completely inept at being able to provide guidance to its licensees regarding acceptable “cheese graders.”:

LSBC’s then-prosecutor Cangelosi emphasizes that accurate specifications for acceptable “cheese graders” needs to be established.

Another nail salon operator told Sound Off Louisiana that his salon was cited for violations and, when he informed the inspector that a beauty salon nearby operated in the same identical manner as him with the same equipment and space allocation, the investigator told him, “There are different rules for you guys.”

Further, when he complained to the investigator that he may challenge via an administrative hearing on the issue, she said, “You may as well pay the fine now.  If you challenge it, they’re just going to add $500 administrative costs, and there is no way you can win!”  When he inquired how that could be possible for his operation to be treated so differently than the nearby beauty salon, the investigator responded, “They can do whatever they want!”

[Note:  Sound Off Louisiana was provided audio evidence of the discussion contained in the above two paragraphs, and we maintain it to this day.  We have, however, honored the wishes of the nail salon operator not to publish the audio file because of fear of retaliation from the LSBC.]

Yet another complaint of Vietnamese operators  a decade ago was the haphazard manner in which Young is “notified” of violations.  Sensing this may be an issue, Polowczuk (the Channel 2 investigative reporter), asked a question in that regard.  Let’s watch Young’s response:

Young indicates that finding violations is a matter of, “being in the right place at the right time.”

Young indicated back then that he had 11 inspectors who are spread thin in their districts; however, many Vietnamese salon operators told us that Young’s statement is “flatly false.”

They indicated to us back then that, after a complaint “mysteriously” appears in front of Young, that inspectors are shifted to their districts to concentrate on them and that the inspectors make it a point of showing up on Saturdays to provide the maximum negative impact to their salons’ operations.

Further, the operators flatly rejected any notion that these Saturday visits are “inspections,” and refer to them as “raids.”  The infamous “Stockstill inspection (raid)” referenced in the linked-lawsuit at the outset of this feature was a Saturday “inspection (raid).”

In summation, our extensive interviews with nail salon operators 10 years ago resulted in them indicating that, instead of permitting them to practice their trade in Louisiana, the LSBC gets bogged down on high school education levels and whether a Vietnamese high school transcript, for which students typically graduate in only 10 years versus 12 in the U. S., meets the equivalent requirement for a 10th grade education in the United States.

As we advance 10 years later, Cao and the Pelican Institute have patiently waited for almost a year for Attorney General Murrill to issue an opinion.

We stated on the video on the prior feature (and have stated repeatedly to many folk privately over the last five months) that we do not believe Murrill is going to issue an opinion, and we believe that the LSBC knew that full well when they requested the opinion.

There simply is no favorable outcome for the Attorney General’s Office no matter which way an opinion may go on the matter.  Furthermore, the potential of a huge and high profile embarrassing loss in 19th JDC could very realistically transpire irrespective of what her opinion may state.

If such an opinion sides with the LSBC, Murrill would surely find herself in 19th JDC defending her opinion as it would most certainly be challenged by the Pelican Institute and Cao.

If such an opinion sides with Pelican and Cao, Murrill would almost certainly end up defending a suit filed by Pelican and Cao after the LSBC failed to provide the requested relief from a Declaratory Judgment.

No doubt sensing that litigation is inevitable, the maneuver of requesting the opinion was an excellent stall tactic, but our belief is that Pelican and Cao have been abundantly patient.  It is, in our opinion, therefore time for litigation to be filed in 19th JDC, likely a Writ of Mandamus, seeking to command the LSBC to do its job (as it should have been forced to do a year ago) and permit arguments for a Declaratory Judgment, and let us all see just where all the chips land!

Anger over Gov. Landry’s signing of 40% cosmetology license fee increase into law spills over as inspector resigns after cash “gift” from nail salon uncovered, a practice we’re told is “pandemic.”

$140 of a $200 “gift” from a nail salon which an inspector of the Louisiana State Board of Cosmetology (LSBC) mysteriously found in a white envelope and which was returned by the LSBC with the statement that such a “gift” is “highly unethical.”

President Trump has touted how strongly his administration intends to root out fraud, waste, and abuse in the Federal government.  We wish we could say the same is transpiring here in Louisiana but, as we’ve already demonstrated, the LSBC, comprised of members all chosen by Gov. Jeff Landry, appears to be actively engaging in or endorsing:

==  Alleged fraud in testifying before the Louisiana Senate Commerce Committee that building repair costs “exceed $1 million” when, in reality, they don’t even total $200,000;

==  Waste in promoting the spending of $700,000 in computer license programming costs when IT experts say doing so is throwing the money into a “rabbit hole” and that the entire licensing function should be outsourced at substantial cost savings; and

== As we intend to demonstrate in this feature:  rank abuse!

We’re going to begin with a brief (four-minute) video of Sound Off Louisiana founder Robert Burns addressing the LSBC on August 4, 2025 about a recurring problem he’s heard from the time he began monitoring the Board, and that being “gifts,” which is the official word chosen by the LSBC to describe what many others with integral knowledge of the Board’s operations have referred to by another term for which we’ll let our visitors use their imaginations to surmise what that term may be:

August 4, 2025:  Burns addresses what the LSBC has described as “highly unethical” behavior regarding a $200 cash payment mysteriously left with one inspector, only to be subsequently uncovered by another inspector.

When Burns first began monitoring the LSBC in 2015, he was told that cash payments were being solicited by inspectors which would prompt the inspectors to then pass the salon being inspected and cite no violations.  The name of one former inspector was provided to Burns with the statement that she was “notorious” for making such overtures to the nail salon owners.

Not that Burns had any reason whatsoever to doubt those telling Burns about the allegedly less-than-subtle overtures for cash payments, but he indicated to those making the allegations that he would not be able to publish anything of that nature without credible evidence that it was in fact transpiring.

Despite continuing to hear reports of such overtures, Burns has steadfastly maintained his stand that nothing could be published without substantiation.

When Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry signed HB-326 into law on June 20, 2025 resulting in the cost of cosmetology licenses being increased by 40 percent and generating approximately $400,000 a year in fresh new money for the LSBC, his signature apparently marked the final straw for some folk!  We say that because, for the first time, and a mere thirty (30) days after Gov. Landry signed the fee increase into law, Burns received highly specific statements about one such payment.  Furthermore, he was guided entailing what he should seek in terms of a public records request to the LSBC to get the substantiation of a cash payment being made.

Burns was instructed to make a public records request evidencing a “separation of service” for a former inspector, and he would uncover the fact that the inspector had resigned not once, but twice.

We are intentionally refraining from publishing the name of the inspector referenced who resigned twice because we firmly believe in the presumption of innocence until someone either pleads guilty to charges or is convicted in a court of law.

Nevertheless, everything our sources told us did in fact match the documentation we obtained, and what we are going to do is simply present the relevant documents (aside from the separation documents for which we are only going to supply dates and official reasons given for the resignations), and we’ll let our site visitors make their own judgments and/or draw their own conclusions.

We want to again stress, however, that we were receiving reports of similar activity going all the way back to 2015, and we’ve never been given any indication that the practice is comprised of isolated incidents but rather that it is a “pandemic.”  Furthermore, that word was used by a source who should be in a position to know!

Now regarding the multiple-resignation former inspector:

Date of Initial Hire:  April 23, 2018.

Date of First Separation (Resignation):  January 23, 2023.

Reason Stated for First Separation:  Resignation – “Due to inflation, I am forced to seek other employment opportunities.”

Date of Second Hire (same Inspector):  September 9, 2024.

Date of Second Separation (Resignation):  July 17, 2025.

Reason Stated for Second Resignation:  “Resign – Personal.”

Prior to the second resignation, inspector Paulette Garrett, in this hand-written note dated April 4, 2025, explains how $200 mysteriously appeared in a “white envelope” after she completed an inspection of Nail Tech II in Broussard, Louisiana, with said envelope containing $200 in cash money along with a hand-written notation of “Thank you.”  From Garrett’s hand-written note:

To Whom it May Concern:

I was at my last shop for 4/3/25 doing a (sic) inspection Nail Tech II.  After I done (sic) the inspection, I started writing violations.  After the violation I wrote the pink slips, because the owner (sic) wife paid for the violations.  I was running late in the shop, so after I was finish (sic), I went to the rest room, I came back pick up the clip board, told the owner (sic) wife have a nice day, went to my car, drove home.  I got home at 5:00 pm.  I pick (sic) up my inspection sheet off the back seat, pick (sic) up the clip board with the last inspection sheet on it.  I notice a white envelope under the sheet, it had money in it $200.  I call Tywanda Spland the Supervisor.  She told me to Bring it to the office.  I brought the envelope to the office.  The shop located (sic) at 218 A  St. Nazaire, Broussard, La  70518.  Nail Tech II.

<Paulette Garrett signature>

Garrett’s hand-written note was followed up later that same day, April 4, 2025 by this certified letter addressed to Taylor Phasarath at Nail Tech II.  Here’s the letter in its entirety:

We draw attention to the middle paragraph of the above certified letter:

Please refrain from ever providing any inspector or representative of the Louisiana State Board of Cosmetology with any gifts because it is highly unethical.

As Burns stated in the video above, he deemed the use of the words “highly unethical” to be “very kind!”

For those curious, here are the violations and check payments for same from Garrett’s 4/3/25 inspection.

When Jeff Landry was elected Governor, some folk in the cosmetology industry as well as other parties were hopeful that it would be a “new day” in the cosmetology industry.

Those same people were disheartened when we stated verbally to them that the new Landry Board seemed totally and completely fixated on gradually raising the cosmetology licensing fee from $25 to $100 (which Burns has captured on video).

The first installment of that attempted increase transpired this past Legislative Session, and Rev. Freddie Lee Phillips, Jr., and Burns tried their best to convince those Legislators making the decision that the fee was not warranted, and Burns referenced the high level of complaints he fields entailing the Board.

Though Burns and Phillips succeeded in scaling the 100 percent proposed increase (from $25 to $50) to a 40 percent increase (from $25 to $35), we believe that the three (3) features we have just presented demonstrate that those in the industry who were against the increase were more than justified for their staunch opposition to the fee increase due to their extreme distrust of the Board.

Some of those folk expressed hope for a Landry veto of the fee increase; however, Burns told them there was no way that would happen because the bill never would have garnered the two-thirds majority required in both the House and Senate for the bill to pass in the first place without Landry’s strong backing.

Landry backed the bill notwithstanding two (2) of his staffers who are at very high levels who have a very thorough and in-depth knowledge of the Cosmetology Board, so that’s just one more instance of our extreme disappointment in Gov. Landry. 

Furthermore, we’re equally disappointed in so-called “fiscal conservatives” such as Sen. Alan Seabaugh, whom we’ve previously praised on this blog, who simply rolled over and voted “yes” for the fee increase.  Since only six (6) Senators voted “no,” we believe they are worthy of special recognition, and so we’re listing them at this time:

== Sen. Regina Barrow (D-Baton Rouge)

== Sen. J. Adam Bass (R-Bossier City)

== Sen. Valarie Hodges (R-Denham Springs)

== Sen. Katrina Jackson-Andrews (D-Monroe)

== Sen. (and we sincerely hope next U. S. Senator from Louisiana) Blake Miguez (R-New Iberia)

== Sen. Thomas A. Pressly (R-Shreveport).

The House of Representatives literally gave the bill no scrutiny whatsoever!  Nevertheless, we believe the nine (9) Members who voted “no” (and that was on the original bill calling for a $1 million a year increase), whose names appear here, are also worthy of recognition.  Here they are:

== Rep. Berl Amede’e (R-Houma)

== Rep. Raymond Crews (R-Bossier City)

== Rep. Julie Emerson (R-Carencro)

== Rep. Les Farnum (R-Sulphur)

== Rep. Michael “Gabe” Firment (R-Pollack)

== Rep. Jack “Jay” William Galle’ (R-Mandeville)

== Rep. Danny McCormick (R-Oil City)

== Rep. Michael Melerine (R-Shreveport)

== Rep. Rodney Schamerhorn (R-Hornbeck)

So, while President Trump diligently tries to root out fraud, waste, and abuse in the Federal government, it’s obvious that Gov. Landry and State Representatives and State Senators whose names do not appear on the above lists are perfectly content to keep the same fraud, waste, and abuse chugging right along in Louisiana!

Maybe Rev. Freddie Lee Phillips, Jr., can succeed in his efforts to recruit a Legislator to sponsor a bill to roll back the 40 percent increase because, as evidenced by the last three (3) features on this Board, we believe that Gov. Landry and the Legislators’ acts of providing them with that massive fee increase of $400,000 a year was grossly irresponsible!

Will Cosmetology Board defy IT experts and send $700,000 down a “rabbit hole” or do like CPA Board, LALB, and others and outsource its licensing function?

At the May 21, 2025 meeting of the Louisiana Senate Commerce Committee, Chairman Beth Mizell asks for an explanation of the $700,000 in “licensing software costs” which the Louisiana State Board of Cosmetology (LSBC) submitted in attempting to procure a $1 million a year licensing fee increase.  Mizell’s inquiry prompted State Rep. Rhonda Butler, who sponsored the bill to achieve the $1 million a year fee increase, to point to LSBC Executive Director Steve Young to answer the question.  Meanwhile, LSBC staffer Kiwan Wade, who had previously said, “Yes sir,” when Sen. Mark Abraham stated the LSBC had “over a $1 million in repair costs” looks on.

In our most recent feature, Rev. Freddie Lee Phillips, Jr., openly, and in presenting in our judgment extremely credible support documentation, accused the LSBC of “fraud” in representing to the Louisiana Senate Commerce Committee on May 21, 2025 that its building repair costs “exceeded $1 million,” when, in reality, the Board’s own internal documents showed those estimated repair costs at barely 20 percent of that amount, or a mere $199,500.

The feature attracted quite a few comments and, in particular, contained a Board-sympathetic comment from “Concerned citizen.”  While we feel all of the comments are worth taking the time to read, we’d highly recommend reading the comment authored by Concerned.

In today’s feature, in conformity with what founder Robert Burns said at the conclusion of the video on the last feature, we’re going to examine another suspect representation made to the Louisiana Senate Commerce Committee, and that is the $700,000 in “programming costs” which the LSBC asserts is required to revamp its licensing software (also readily available at the above-linked LSBC internal documents).

Here is a three (3) minute video of the Chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, Beth Mizell, being more than a little curious as to how that $700,000 figure came about, followed by a very evasive answer by LSBC Executive Director Steve Young, followed by a brief segment of Burns stating to the LSBC Membership at its August 4, 2025 meeting just what IT experts have told him on the matter:

Compilation of discussions of the LSBC’s representation that it needs $700,000 to revamp its licensing software operations.

As Burns stated in the above video, he initiated communication to the State Board of CPAs of Louisiana as well as to the Louisiana Auctioneer Licensing Board (LALB).  The Executive Directors of each Board, Lisa Benefield and Sandy Edmonds, respectively, could not have possibly been more helpful in providing their contracts with outside vendors for managing their licensing functions.  Let’s examine each:

State Board of CPAs of Louisiana:

Ms. Benefield provided the contract with their vendor.   She was also gracious enough to include a cover letter dated July 22, 2025 which succinctly states the terms of the contract.  From her letter:

We do have two contracts with a company named “Thentia Cloud” that date back to February of 2022. One contract began in February of 2022 and ended in February of 2025; it was for the development and implementation of a new licensing database. The second contract, also with Thentia, is a one-year renewal of the first contract that began February 16, 2025 and ends February 15, 2026. The first contract was for $150,000 and the second contract was for $65,600.

So, the CPA Board, which is relying upon Thentia Cloud for its entire licensing function, has been receiving this absolutely stellar service (Burns is an inactive CPA who renews his certificate every year and the process is seamless, efficient, and has been flawless) for an incredible $50,000/year (increasing to $65,600 for the 2025-2026 licensing year).  For that price, the Board needs minimal personnel to accomplish its licensing mission, and just the interest on $700,000 would make a major dent in the cost of obtaining this type of stellar service.

Furthermore, by freeing up labor via outsourcing, existing employees can be redeployed to other functions.  Then, once they retire, there is simply no need to replace them.  The reality is that much of the government functions, no differently than in the private sector, are going to be displaced by AI, and every governmental agency would be wise to stay on top of the technology curve to the fullest extent possible.  The IT experts with whom we’ve consulted have all indicated that spending $700,000 on an in-house redevelopment of its licensing operations is simply not the way to do that.

In fact, our lead IT expert whom we contacted for making the statements Burns made in the video above said:  “Robert, what the LSBC is looking at doing is no different than going to Ford Motor Company and saying, ‘look, you all make some great vehicles, but I want one custom made just for me to the exact specifications I give to you.’  Sure, Robert, Ford can do that, but they’re going to tell you that the price of the vehicle is $2 million!”

Burns then said to the IT expert, “So is it a little like saying I’ll do my own spreadsheet and program it myself rather than using Excel,” to which he responded, “Exactly!”

We want to make it as easy as possible for the Cosmetology Board to reach out to the State Board of CPAs to make inquiries about the Board’s level of satisfaction, etc.  In doing so, we’re going to reproduce the trailer on Ms. Benefield’s emails to us:

Lisa A. Benefield,
Executive Director
State Board of CPAs of Louisiana
601 Poydras Street, Suite 1770
New Orleans, LA 70130
(504) 566-1244 Main (504) 372-6726 Direct

Louisiana Auctioneer Licensing Board (LALB):

In 2009, Ms. Sandy Edmonds became the Executive Director of the LALB.  When she arrived, what she encountered was an office which had essentially no automation whatsoever.  We should also point out that, though the agency has only about 400 licensees, Edmonds has no support staff whatsoever; furthermore, she is able to serve as Executive Director and handle all of the functions of the office in working only 16 hours a week (her predecessor was a full-time employee and had a part time student worker).

How has she managed to do that?  By being supremely efficient, and that includes digitizing all of the agency’s records and fully automating the licensing process.  Edmonds, like Benefield, was only too happy to provide the LALB’s contract with its vendor.  They rely upon Certemy for managing the licensing operations.  The agency has been paying $5,000 a year and, though there will be an increase at the next renewal, the annual cost will remain under $7,000 a year.  Our IT experts have stated to us that the more licensees an agency has the lower the cost per licensee is going to be because of an ability to spread some fixed costs the vendor incurs over a larger base of licensees.  We would again emphasize, however, that, even at that $7,000/year upon renewal, Edmonds is able to run a full-fledged governmental agency only costing the LALB 16 hours of her time each week!

In the video above, Burns indicated that he would provide the link for Certemy video testimonials, to include the Nevada Board of Marriage and Family Counselors.  Here is the link for those video testimonials.

As we wrap up this feature, we want to present a brief (46-second) video of cosmetologist Erin Grace stating at the July, 2025 LSBC meeting the existing shortcomings of the LSBC’s online license renewals:

July, 2025 LSBC Meeting in which Cosmetologist Erin Grace laments the fact that only individual cosmetology licenses can be renewed online with other licenses (salon, teaching, etc.) having to be renewed by hand.

What we want to point out is that all these other occupational licensing agencies have multiple licenses as well.  For example, the Louisiana State Board of CPAs has individual CPA licenses, firm CPA licenses, and CPA certificate holders (which is what Burns is, hence him always having to state that he is an “inactive” CPA).  Likewise, the LALB has individual auctioneer licenses, auction business licenses, and apprentice license holders.   Licensed CPAs are also required to take a minimum of 80 hours of CPE courses every two years, and the vendor touts being able to track that (inactive CPAs are exempt from CPE requirements).  The license vendors they utilize are obviously easily able to accommodate all of these various licensing types and the CPE tracking, and such should also be the case for the LSBC!

That is going to wrap it up for segment two of this feature, and we want to extend our sincerest appreciation to Ms. Sandy Edmonds of the LALB and Ms. Lisa Benefield of the Louisiana State Board of CPAs for their roles in helping make this feature possible.  Who knows?  Perhaps if the LSBC will heed the guidance of the IT folk with whom we’ve consulted, the LSBC may one day be just as efficient and seamless in its licensing function.  Nevertheless, we feel compelled to emphasize that the IT experts with whom we have consulted have been very emphatic that spending $700,000 on an in-house revamp of the existing system is simply not the path to go down.  One expert even stated, “it will just be a rabbit hole which will have programming errors and tons of trial and error fixes, none of which would be required if outsourcing were deployed.”

We want to also express appreciation for the many comments on the last feature, and that would certainly include the comment from “Concerned citizen.”

We promise!  Nobody is going to want to miss segment three (3) of this series because, in it, we are going to focus on extensive problems transpiring out in the field (i.e. with the inspectors), and we know nobody is going to want to miss that feature, which we anticipate being published on or around Wednesday, August 27, 2025!